
ZACH WILLIAMS
Owner & Founder, Venveo
As 2025 approaches, building product companies face a year of uncertainty and opportunity, from shifts in the commercial market to heightened competition. In this episode of Smarter Building Materials Marketing, Zach Williams and Beth PopNikolov sit down with Jim Wueste, VP of Carlisle Waterproofing, to offer their insights into what the future holds for the industry. The conversation delves into market trends, the impact of tariffs and interest rates, and what companies must do to thrive in the competitive year ahead.
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2025 Market Predictions: What Building Product Companies Need to Know

00:12 - Reflecting on 2024: Predictions and outcomes
01:22 - Commercial market performance: Insights and surprises
03:49 - Residential market churn and emerging opportunities
08:06 - Stabilization, competition, and the need for smarter strategies in 2025
12:19 - Operational investments: The key to margin expansion and success
17:02 - The implications of mergers and acquisitions in the building products industry
Jim Wueste, Vice President of Waterproofing at Carlisle, is a seasoned leader in the building materials industry. With extensive experience across multiple companies, Jim is known for building high-performance teams and driving strategic growth. At Nichiha, he played a pivotal role in transforming the company into a leading U.S. cladding manufacturer through innovative sales strategies and operational improvements. Skilled in technical sales and process optimization, Jim excels at aligning cross-functional teams to achieve long-term success. Jim’s expertise and forward-thinking approach continue to shape the industry, making him a trusted voice in navigating its challenges and opportunities.
Jim reflected on a year filled with unpredictable rate changes and surprising resilience in the commercial market. Despite being “1 million percent” convinced that federal rate cuts would start in March.
However, his prediction that the commercial market would outperform expectations proved correct. “Anything financed and already turning dirt kept moving forward,” he noted, highlighting the momentum that carried projects through an otherwise turbulent economic environment.
Beth added her perspective, pointing out how many companies tempered their expectations for 2024 after years of ambitious projections.
Competition is expected to intensify significantly in 2025, with homeowners seeking multiple quotes and businesses needing to focus more on customer acquisition. Beth highlights this shift as an opportunity for companies to excel by adding value and innovating, emphasizing that businesses can no longer rely on past strategies.
She sees this increased competition as a positive force, driving companies to refine their offerings and engage more effectively with customers. Beth also warns that businesses must stay agile and proactive to remain competitive in this environment.
Economic uncertainty, driven by potential tariffs and interest rate fluctuations, will remain a critical factor for 2025. While tariffs may seem likely, Jim is skeptical about their implementation, noting logistical challenges and political resistance.
Interest rates are another key variable. Though Jim admits his predictions for 2024 were off, he foresees gradual rate reductions in 2025, which could reinvigorate construction projects by improving financing conditions.
Companies that invested in automation and operational improvements during the COVID-19 pandemic are poised to see returns on those investments in 2025. With new equipment and streamlined processes coming online, these businesses can enhance productivity and profitability in an increasingly competitive market.
He emphasizes that operational efficiency will be crucial for building product companies, especially as price-driven growth becomes harder to achieve.
Success in 2025 will favor companies that prioritize execution, innovation, and customer-centricity. Beth and Jim both agree that strong relationships and effective strategies will be key differentiators in the year ahead.
Jim adds that strong execution in the field, particularly by sales teams, will be a decisive factor. Companies that foster strong relationships with contractors, provide reliable products, deliver exceptional service, integrate themselves seamlessly into their customers’ operations, and solve their pain points will be best positioned for success.
Have more questions for Jim Wueste? You can connect with him on LinkedIn.
SBMM is co-hosted by Venveo’s Founder, Zach Williams and Venveo’s CEO, Beth PopNikolov.